Thursday, February 12, 2009

The Pretenders!

assalamualaikum

in the name of Allah the Most Gracious the Most Merciful

among the top leaders in Malaysia, Karpal Singh is one of the many that I respect the most. I have said it before, he is a man that sticks to his principles.

Many who love Utusan and TV3 believe that he has committed a treason to Sultan Perak. Whether he has or not, I believe the number of who have listened to his actual comments is very minimal.



Maybe you UMNO lovers should really practise what you preach all this while.

Karpal says 'I know what I'm talking about'. Listen to at least what he mentioned about '1993'.

Personally, as much as I respect every Sultan and every leader, I believe everyone is prone to making mistakes. They need to be corrected when necessary.

They are not God(s), IMO. Therefore, I am questioning the relevance of the fatwa made by Mufti Perak(Memahami Psyche para Mufti).

till next time,
assalamualaikum

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey, jeghi, didn't realise that you have a blog that's so.. err.. political.

Here's my take on this whole thing.

My dad owns a company, and he had first-hand experience on how Pak Lah's bad economic decision crippled (or nearly crippled) many of Malaysian owned companies.

It's pretty evident with the current situation now that Pak Lah's current govt is not strong enough to lead the country.

But.....

I definitely wouldn't be voting for "Pakatan Rakyat" either.

The fact that the ex-Perak MB (or the REAL MB if you choose to say so) has given freehold lands to the Kampung Baru, which are mostly non-Malays (and planning to giveaway a lot more too!), alone convinced me that letting PR govern the country wouldn't be a good idea as well.

(well, what can he do ek.. almost all of the other exco positions are held by.. dam dam dam.. chinese, DAP )

I must say that, actually, it's a relieve that Perak changed hands from PR to BN.. I wonder what'd happen if PR continue to give lands to non-Malays.

...and...

I don't like how Anwar uses and manipulates the word "rakyat" in his blog and speech, saying something like:

"Rakyat Perak telahpun membuktikan bahawa mereka tidak bersetuju dan tidak mengiktiraf pembentukan sebuah kerajaan negeri selain dari yang dipimpin oleh Dato’ Seri Nizar."

That's probably true to some extend.. but, definitely, not the whole rakyat of Perak is against the whole BN takeover.

In fact, maybe majority of Perak rakyat actually supports the takeover.

(and the ones that is against the takeover are probably the chinese and indians that has yet to receive any land.. and.. sorry to say this.. some idiot malays that supports giving freehold land to non-Malays)

Many Malays are in a dilemma. Support BN, get weak (and, well, maybe rasuah too) leader. Support PR, lose land, and potentially the country, to non-Malays and the outside force.

Like what Dr M said..

Ditelan mati emak, diluah mati bapak.

Anonymous said...

Mcm susah je nak pecaya yg komen kat atas purr yg tulih. Tp mungkin ye jugak. Haha.

However I agree with the views presented above. I think that the idea of giving 999 year long leases for land is ridiculous.

"Tanah tu bg dekat org2 cina susah"
Huh,org Melayu yg susah lg bersepah. Tak pulak tolong.

"Alaa,kan Pas ada dlm kerajaan PR tu". I still do not like the idea of Pas combining strength with the likes of Karpal Singh & Lim Kit Siang and their "Malaysian Malaysia" konsep la konon.The Malays are still behind because of the NEP only benefiting a small fraction of the Malays.

But the current government is not very good either. Zakat management is poor. The tender process of government projects is biased.Transparency in the bidding process is poor. Misuse of public funds is very obvious.The hypocrite attitudes of the wakil rakyat just before elections is so evident too.

In the end,its just a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils. Not much of a choice, either way.

Unknown said...

Zulkifli: 1stly, be careful with your racist-sounded statement.

2ndly, I have been interested in politics since 15 y/o. At this age, we should start doing our own research, and relying on 'my dad says this, and that', and 'he knows this and that' are not sufficient.

2 sources, UMNO's says lands are given to the Chinese.PR says its given to the poor Chinese.If it is given to poor Chinese, since when it is wrong to help anyone?

Now you wanna talk help is not enough given to the Malays. Everyone should remember by right the Malay majority Terengganu is still among the poorest states in Malaysia, despite having the biggest income from Petronas. That is one of many examples.

Why did you not talk about Kedah's decision to make it compulsary for any housing project to have 50% Bumis? This is among the highest.

You should compare with what you believe with facts. Why must there be a difference between a Malay or a Chinese or an Indian? They are Malaysians too. Compare your findings with the other present and previous state governments.

I believe Terengganu is the best example. So much money yet the Malays economically are still so poor. In KT by election also, 36million was given to Chinese school. Why keep quiet on this matter? Why must the state Government subscribe to Utusan Malaysia during by election?

If you do not like the word rakyat, it is your choice. Let me give u some survey results here,

Malaysiakini: 40k participants, 80% disagree with takeover.

MalaysianInsider: >60% disagree with takeover.

Astro Awani Analisis: 98% rakyat Perak tidak percaya lagi dengan sistem Kerajaan sejurus selepas takeover.

I read a lot, that is why I can come up with those numbers above.

Malaysia have lost its recognition as among the best long2 time ago. Why must there be finger pointing when PR is even in control of the country.

You can come up with a thousand claims, but you must back them up with facts, facts and facts. One of the reasons Malays are losing so many things is corruption, especially among leaders. I have written this before, more than 100+ complaints have been lodged towards UMNO's Discipline Council, yet only few have received punishment.

and if this continues, you have only UMNO to blame.

I am more than happy to continue this intellectual debate.

Unknown said...

Shafiq: As a Muslim, we have to be fair. And we are judged based on taqwa, not skin colour. Between a Malay and a Chinese, no-one is superior than the other. If it's ridiculous to you, so be it. I have given the example in reply to Purr's. Terengganu is the best example.

Perhaps it is wrong to compare a better PR with a weak UMNO. Or like comparing MU with West Brom. They(UMNO-led BN) have had billions of ringgit in Terengganu, don't talk about they have freehold lands, many of the Terengganu are still poor!Many Malays in Johor also still live in flats.

Whether PAS is right in combining with DAP and PKR, I believe PAS knows realistically they can't win the country on their own.

Anonymous said...

Haha.. Betol.. ni zul. purrrrr.

Anyways..

1. I know I probably sound too direct.. But, I believe the best way to address this matter in this situation is to simply state it right in the face.. RAW. no need to cover-cover.

2. Yes, from how you write I'm pretty sure you've researched a lot.. I've just took interest to research and read about politics quite recently (mainly due to the BN takeover, which, at first, before I understood anything, I was also against it totally. Now, I'm undecided, but leaning towards 'with the takeover, the end result would be better'). I'm pretty sure you know a lot more about the happenings in Malaysia more than I do.

", I have been interested in politics since 15 y/o. At this age, we should start doing our own research, and relying on 'my dad says this, and that', and 'he knows this and that' are not sufficient."

Doesn't asking from my dad, and actually feeling the financial crisis myself, first-hand, counts as doing my own research? Of course, I'm reading all sorts of stuffs too, from Dr M blog, Anwar Ibrahim, news sites and stuffs. And I'm sure you've been doing the same too, unless you've personally interviewed anwar ibrahim, pak lah, or whomever yourself.

But of course, each to his own opinion.

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Okay, about the giving of land to Chinese..

It's not about "ala, banyak lagi melayu miskin, nak gak bagi cina".

It's simply about GIVING THE LAND TO THE CHINESE, a non-Malay, a non-Bumi. I don't give a damn if they're rich or poor.

Well, let me give you an analogy, k?

Okay, you've bought a house. All by yourself. It's all yours. Then I come along, asking "Can I live in your house?". And you said "sure".

So, I live in your house, got a room and stuffs. Of course, I also help pay the food, electric, water bills.. watch your TV.. kadang2 beli barang untuk umah.. baring2 on your sofa.. it's all good eh?

I also decorate the room you gave me.. maybe even put my own stuffs.. bla bla bla

But..

If someone, who's actually willing to pay rental fees, wants to get a room at your house, do you reserve the right to kick me out?

Of course, yes, though I might kutuk that you're inhumane. lolz.

If I start to play games and turn on the speaker very loud at night, and after some warnings I still do it, do you reserve the right to kick me out?

Of course, the house is yours, though I might kutuk you "kamonla.. nerd!"

What if for some reason you believe I'm going to murder you, do you reserve the right to kick me out?

Of course, it's YOUR house.. Though I might kutuk you as "stupid, x pecaye kat kawan punye orang!!!!"

What if I had sex with your wife?

haha.. ok that's too extreme for a question.

Okay, now that's done.. What if..

When I first came, you and I signed a contract that states..

"You give the room to me as my very own property, completely, and I can do whatever the **** I want with my room, and you can't do anything about it, or even kick me out"

(Of course, at that time you might think that, "Ala, zul, member aku kot.. tong2 je la.")

Now.. What happens?

1. If someone wants to pay rental fees to live in your house.. You can't tell me to go away, or at least pay the same rental fees.

It's all under MY mercy.. not yours, even if it's YOUR house.

2. If I turn up my speakers out loud and become a nuisance in the house.. You can't tell me to shut up.

It's all under MY mercy.. not yours, even if it's YOUR house.

3. Even if you have concrete proof that I want to murder you.. You can't force me out.. Because..

..It's all under MY mercy.. not yours, even if it's YOUR house.

4. Even if I did have sex with your wife.. No, you can't do a damn thing about it.

..It's all under MY mercy.. not yours, even if it's YOUR house.

And.. NO, you can't do a DAMN thing about it. Why? Coz YOU gave me the room to do whatever the **** I want!


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Okay, the above example might sound a bit foolish, but I really hope you get what I mean.

Giving some helping funds to Chinese.. Of course, I'm cool with that. After all, we are living together and helping each other, right?

But, giving them lands for them to do whatever the **** they want? For 99 years? NO NO NO NO NO. NO WAY. NOOOO WAYYYYY. NO ******* WAY.

Yes, maybe we should trust the Chinese.. like.. COMPLETELY.. like giving them lands so that they can do whatever the **** they want with it. Right? Right? Of course they wouldn't do something like in the example, "have sex with my wife", right? RIGHT?

It's the CHINESE that should respect the wishes of Malaysians that we want to be in full control of the situation, and can do whatever we want. THEY are the ones who should have faith in Malaysians to do humanly things to them, like not driving them away from Malaysia, NOT the other way around, with Malaysians being at the mercy of Chinese.

After all, it IS the Malay's "House".

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About the Kedah situation, I wasn't aware of that (yeah, sorry, I didn't read the news).. So I'm not really prepared to give any comments.

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About the polls..

I would only take the poll results with a grain of salt..

Admit it.. MalaysiaKini and MalaysianInsider ARE pro-Anwar..

I'm not saying they manipulated the results or whatever.. But since both newssites are pro-Anwar, naturally majority of the readers are pro-Anwar as well.. And the poll result? Of course, majority would vote against BN..

I'm pretty sure the result would be vastly different if the poll was put at some UMNO site.. Then majority would vote that they support the takeover.. Then BN can say "The Rakyat say what we did was right."

About the Astro AWANI.. the poll answer seems to be a bit vague.. "tidak percaya lagi dengan sistem Kerajaan".. doesn't really mean that they support the BN takeover or not.

Plus, wow, even at the MalaysiaKini, biased towards Anwar, 80% is against the take over, but at Astro AWANI, 98% "tidak percaya lagi dengan sistem Kerajaan"?

That's like 18% difference! Too much difference in percentage, even for statistical variations.

It's either the method to take the sample was wrong, or as I've stated before, the poll question is just too vague, too different, to be compared with poll questions held at MalaysiaKini or MalaysianInsider.

And..

Since you've been reading about Politics since you were 15 years old, I'm pretty sure you should have a pretty good estimate of how much holding an election, even for just 2 kerusis, would cost.

****ing much! (to give you an idea, millions and millions of RM)

Not a really good thing to do when we are in a financial crisis. Plus, just ~9 months after the GE.

The Sultan have been shutting his mouth and not interfere when Perak govt are giving away lands to non-Bumis..

I think he saw this as the opportunity for him to stop the "give away land" crap (probably under the influence of chinese, particularly DAP, the "always-use-racist-stuffs-to-get-votes") for once and for all.

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The only one who's pointing to PR for what's happening now is UMNO. Okay, maybe not the only one, but mostly, it's just UMNO.

And yes, many people knows about the corruptions in UMNO, so you don't need to reiterate it again and again and again.

And yes, UMNO leadership might be weak. As of now.

But.. hey.. What about PR then.. Toyota Camry anyone? (it's not rasuah, but they are still using the rakyat's money for unnecessary stuffs, they should be ashamed for that. Of course, BN, or UMNO, shouldnt be the one to talk)

Of course, even PR is human.. even if it's them it's pretty hard to fight the lust for wealth..

Everybody wants money.. including me. I'm pretty sure even PR are not immune to rasuah, even if they say so.

Giving land to non-Bumis doesn't help much with their popularity either. Something, at least, UMNO and BN wouldn't do just to boost popularity and get some votes.



Pegi depan kene makan singa, pusing belakang jatuh bawah cliff. (sendiri punye ayat daa)


And.. hey.. why are we arguing.. so stupidla. all the chinese dap of ex-Perak exco are laughing with melayus arguing with each other while they just got away without being under fire, leaving the sad ex-Perak MB to be blamed.

Anonymous said...

I dont have time but I'll just provide you with argument with one of your idea.


"It's simply about GIVING THE LAND TO THE CHINESE, a non-Malay, a non-Bumi. I don't give a damn if they're rich or poor."

I can't really blame you for coming out with the above argument. It is clear that you're not doing much research, you're easily manipulated by the mainstream media.

Yes, UMNO is playing the issue te government of perak is giving away lands to the chinese. How about UMNO led government? UMNO gave land to chinese as well. Ironically, instead of giveing it to the pooe,they prefer to give land to rich chinese.

Look at genting? How many inches of the land owned by the melay?

Yes, when UMNO do that is to stipulate the economy. But when pakatan rakyat award the land to the poor, it's wrong & corrupt! Funny isnt it your argument?

The land owned by the melayu in penang is less than 1%. And this was before DAP took over the state. For the last 50 years, it was BARISAN NASIONAL who has been in power. Why aren't you saying anything about this?

Anonymous said...

oh yeah, did i tell you the land in pulau pinang is FREEHOLD (forever yours!) ? It has been happening for the last 50 years brother.

50 years UMNO controlled the state!!

Anonymous said...

you next issue --

About the Kedah situation, I wasn't aware of that (yeah, sorry, I didn't read the news).. So I'm not really prepared to give any comments.

Of course, you only read what you wish to read. typical UMNO. or maybe it was not in the utusan malaysia! believe them

Anonymous said...

Oh yeah noticed this in your first para

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My dad owns a company, and he had first-hand experience on how Pak Lah's bad economic decision crippled (or nearly crippled) many of Malaysian owned companies.

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Cant blame pak lah bro if you were the one voted for him!! Not me!!

Anonymous said...

-Purr's argument of house, including sex-related part was unintellectual.
-I am not angry about Malays having power, but I am angry that wrong Malays are having power.
-Exploitation of power are what I am most concerned about.
-It is such a shame if non-Malays leader can take care of Malays (as well as non-Malays) in their area and that Malays do not give a damn about non-Malays.
-Malays are afraid to lose power, but we are also not doing the right thing if we give power to corrupt Malays.
-Politics need to cool down in Malaysia. Many good projects by good men went to the drain because of political interventions.
-We need to progress more in terms of personal skills, as we Malays are lacking them. For example English proficiency and confidence.
-Malays are fallible to group mentality and to mental exploitation of leaders.
-Leaders are respectable, but not always agreeable. Blind inflexible obedience is a total stupidity.
-Politics, as much as it is wasting your time and mine, need to be put aside in like 80% of the time. Malaysians should chill, power issues should not be as serious as this. Geez.
-For example, I wrote this when I am supposed to write up my assignment. If I do not read the comments, and much better if the issue at Perak not serious as now which could make Azri not writing about this and Purr not commenting, I would have worked of my assignment now.

World is a place where everyone should not talk shit to each other, instead love each other, practice humanity, and experience life without hate. Money puts an end to this beautiful utopian goals. Therefore money probably is the Satan afterall.

Anonymous said...

hi there

Firstly, I'd like to apologize to any chinese or non-bumis who may be offended by what I've said with the "house" examples and stuffs.

But I hope you really get what I am trying to say..

Who's The "Real House Owner" Around Here

Once the non-Bumis understand and respect that, then all will be good. (And actually, I believe most, if not all, non-Bumis understand and respect that, or else we wouldn't be living in harmony until now.. well, until DAP starts playing the "racist card" again)

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Okay, so maybe my initial judgement about the giving of freehold land is a bit naive.

Okay, please correct me if I'm wrong..

What's actually happening in Perak is that they are converting leasehold land to freehold land for free.. is that correct?

And the definitions from my limited understanding...

Leasehold: You own the land for maybe 30,60 or 99 years, but in that time the govt could get the land back if it is to be used for public purposes.. of course with compensations and stuffs.. but usually, the govt wouldn't do that.

Freehold: You own the land.. Like.. It's all yours. Govt can buy the land, but hey, you can choose to be stubborn and not give in, and govt can do nothing about it.

If my above definition is right, then, even if the receiving end are Malays, I would pretty much disagree with the decision as well.

Usually, leasehold lands are marked as lands where there are potential future development.. In which case then the govt could acquire them and then develop them for the good of the whole rakyat, not just the benefit of the few.

Now, when you FREELY give freehold status to leasehold lands.. What happens? The govt simply loses power on the land.

So, you're saying that the UMNO are giving freehold lands to the Rich Chinese, rather than the Poor Chinese.

Ok.. So.. Please enlighten me on how giving 99 years of freehold land (or was it 999 years???) titles to the "poor Chinese" would help them.. other than increasing the immediate value of their land (for selling purposes).

After all, they have already owned the land.. even though it's 'just' leasehold, right? They can do whatever they want with it, EVEN WITHOUT GIVING THEM 999 YEARS FREEHOLD.. like bercucuk tanam, menternak binatang, etc etc.. though the govt can takeover, with compensation.

The only thing I can see, the 'benefits of giving 999 years of freehold' for now is that they can immediately sell the land (with the 999 years freehold title) at a very high value.. To SOME OTHER RICH GUY.

The person who freely got the 999 years freehold status becomes rich, the OTHER RICH GUY becomes even richer (since he can do developments for his own richness), but the government lose control of the land, and they can't develop the area to benefit the rakyat.

IF the Perak PR (or mostly DAP) govt wants to 'help the poor'.. A simple, better way would be to increase their wages.. Or if they bercucuk tanam and menternak binatang.. then go give them some modal money so that they can bela lagi banyak binatang and tanam lagi banyak tumbuh-tumbuhan.

The only thing I can see from what ex-govt at Perak did to giveaway freehold land status was just to gain popularity among the Perak people (not going to name any races here).. without thinking about the long term impact.

Of course, I might be wrong here, maybe the ex-Perak govt DID do some deep research and then it was for the best for the state that to give "999 years of freehold land status" to the "poor chinese".

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About Genting, yup, UMNO did that to stipulate the economy, else only the Pahang side of the Genting Highland would be developed by Tan Sri Lim Goh Tong, and not the Selangor side (initially, Selangor only agreed to give a 99 years leasehold status, Pahang immediately agreed to the freehold status application). I suggest YOU to do the research yourself.


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About Penang..

I don't know where you get that number, but if that's true, then probably that's due to the history that the chinese were the majority over there ever since before merdeka?

The fact that Penang, a 'Malay'sian state, but most of the lands are owned by Chinese.. but nothing violent, riots or "state takeovers" happened.. No something like UMNO saying "hey MCA, go to the chinese men at Penang and tell them to surrender their land to UMNO!"

This simply shows that the Malays are actually very tolerant with the Chinese. Other countries? Jangan harap!

How about if the mainland China give a land as big as Penang to the Malays? After all, most of Penang are owned by Chinese. But the answer will of course be "NO WAY. NO NO NO WAY. UH HUH."

But would Malay want to give even more land to the Chinese? Especially for no concrete reason at all? The Chinese, and non-Bumis, should respect it when Malays say "NO."

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your comment:

"Of course, you only read what you wish to read. typical UMNO. or maybe it was not in the utusan malaysia! believe them"

Well, sorry that I wasn't back in Malaysia then.. I only arrived at 21st Nov. I believe the situation at Kedah rose around the 10th-11th if I'm not mistaken.. And back then the only reason I'll open the newspaper was to read the comic strips and football. Call me ignorant if you want.

But, now I've read about the Kedah situation, I'm on the opinion that increasing the housing quota for Bumis from 30% to 50% is.. well.. wasteful.. Since, as of now, they can't even fill up the 30% quota that has already been established.

The obvious reason why they've done this was probably some publicity stunt to get the Malays' support at Kedah. Of course my opinion might be wrong, maybe I just haven't been thinking far ahead.

And, it's PAS, or PR, who's actually governing Kedah, not BN.

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Your Comment:


Oh yeah noticed this in your first para

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My dad owns a company, and he had first-hand experience on how Pak Lah's bad economic decision crippled (or nearly crippled) many of Malaysian owned companies.

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Cant blame pak lah bro if you were the one voted for him!! Not me!!



I'm simply giving you a REAL, LIVE example that Pak Lah made some bad economic decisions.

And don't make assumptions on who I've voted. I'm not even 21 years old yet.


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Here's my personal opinion. I personally don't like arguing with "some guy" on the internet, who always hide behind pseudonyms, about some sensitive issues like this.

Most of them will just deny everything that has been said by saying something like

"tapi diorang buat camni, yang ni x leh lak?"

Without giving no concrete reason for supporting what they support, and no reason why they thing they're against of was wrong.

And then simply attacking the other people like

"Stupid, tipikal umno supporter. umno buat, betul. pkr buat, salah."

"Ko memang, bodoh buta maen makan je ape Anwar Ibrahim cakap"

..yes, both sides have these types of people. No matter it's about BN vs PR, Israel attacking Gaza, US invading Iraq, whatever.

Prove me wrong by actually admitting who you are, just posting you real name is enough.

At least that'll give you some credibility.

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To Anonymous, the guy above me.

What you said in one comment makes more sense then what the person above you wrote in 5 comments.. Well, in MY opinion of course.

I pretty much agree with all your points. And yeah, my "house" example, I admit it wasn't intellectual, but I couldn't come up with a better analogy that's to show that who's the 'boss' around here.

But, here's my opinion,

the Malays are strong.

Of course, not all Malays are 'clever and strong', just like how not all Chinese are 'rich', y'know?

P.S. And hey, thanks for understanding that, me, as a Malay, definitely would NOT want Malay in Malaysia to be like how Maoris are in New Zealand!

P.P.S. Oh, and if you don't know, Maoris aren't the one in power, and THEY have to defend their own rights. Padahal, asalnye, New Zealand was theirs. Now, it's controlled by Orang Putih.

Azman said...

If this was discussed in 1940's I would somewhat understand with what being said.

But brother, we are years ahead of that time. And with the progression of time, our mentality should go in hand.

Zulkifli, I simply can't except your argument, and worse, I'm disappointed with the mentality you have right now. I don't blame it on you per se. You're younger than 21, and I guess maturity hasn't kicked in. I am sure once you're older, see more of the world and more importantly the people, you'll have a better view and say on things.

Let's go back in time, way back in 1950. Barisan Nasional was known as Pakatan back then. Their logo was a sailboat, with 3 people on board. The 3 represents the ethnicity that form the bulk of Malaysia; the Malay, Chinese and Indian.

Wouldn't that itself be a better (if not the best) analogy of what Malaysia is all about? 3 sailors on a boat set sail into the open sea. If one becomes a freeloader, the boat will sink. If one tries to be a hero, the boat would pretty much meet the same fate. Everyone has to work together. Only then we can survive as a nation.

If there's one change I want you to make, it's the mentality that Malays own Malaysia. My friend, we don't own anything. To me, Ketuanan Melayu is the worst thing that Malays have ever come up with. And I'm surprised that this concept is at its peak at times like these. Why? Because I find it an irony that we proudly recognize Ketuanan Melayu and boldly reject Zionism. Look hard, brother. For both are one and the same.

I however, do recognize the need that Bumiputeras still do require some assistance, but I will not let it go at that. While Bumi still require some help, the mentality needs to be set that one day, this has to go. Bumis can't be receiving help forever. Sooner (I hope) or later, the concept of Bumiputera has to go, and assistance then should go across the board. Some Chinese in Malaysia had their lineage in Malaysia since the 15th century. Roughly, that translates to 18 generations. How many generations does it take for them to become the Children of the Soil (the definition if Bumiputera).

As a take home message, hear this, Zulkifli; Yes, our ancestors have been here for eons, but I'm sure they came from somewhere. Then the Chinese came on junks, and the Indians on British ships. We all came using different boats, but now we're on the same ship.

Don't get discouraged by this. Instead, I want you to be more motivated. Facts are easy to obtain, but maturity requires experience and some aging. Keep on discussing.

Anonymous said...

Surfing through and found this blog with an interesting discussion going on.

Just wanna drop my opinions here:

1. As what I can see in the comments, there has been an attempt to labeled those who didn't agree with PR as ignorant/biased.

2. I thought as a neutral readers, we must accept and respects others views. Maybe can put our counter points as a respond to it.

3. Some comments sounded racist or really straight forward but that's is actually what happen in "majority" Malaysian bumiputra hearts. (even both coalition supporters felt the same, can do a quick survey among your friends)

4. It is not wrong to share everything and respect each others but we must know what is the limit.

5. Now Communism starting to be popularize and still not many people stood up to say anything about it. Where are all these warriors of Malaysia been?

6. We cant deny the Malay rights in Malaysia. I also respect non bumis rights to be lived in Malaysia, but I believe there are few things in Malaysia that we shouldn't touch as it will just creates more problem and do more damage than good.

7. I hope Malaysia especially its citizen could judge better in PRU13 to let the best lead the country.

:)

Anonymous said...

apa cer Penang? adil dan saksama?

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